Enterprise 1701-B

[Captain Roop]

Well I guess I will be the first to post a comment in the Official Star Trek part of this forum.

Don't know about you guys but the one older Enterprise I really liked was the 1701-B I just thought it looked great. While I was not a huge fan of the Excelsior Class in general there was something about the modified styling on the lower Stardrive section that really caught my eye.

If I was going to have a club that dealt in that era of time it would certainly be with this version of the Excelsior Class.
We know that this ship was introduced in Generations as sort of a cool way to make for a great opener into getting Kirk in the movie and others, but it was a nice way to see Enterprise B also.  Seems funny it took TNG to get us Enterprise B & C... Anyway I think they should have done some small Phase II TV movies, one every once in awhile, and shown more in between ships like B and C and even Captain Sulu on the Excelsior. As you may know there was a huge push started on an Excelsior Campaign to have the adventures of Captain Sulu and his crew, but just never quite made it.

I would love to have seen a few adventures with Captain John Harriman and his crew as well. Such will never be the case I guess.  Maybe sometime in the distant future if we decide to write another time travel story, maybe Grandeur can go back and meet Captain Harriman for some kind of an advednture, who knows.  Love to hear from others that really loved Enterprise-B even if we did not get to see a lot of her.

[Ken Thomson, Admin]

John Harriman did return in two stories. One is the novel, "The Captain's Daughter" and another is Star Trek: "Of Gods and Men" which is a fan film. Sulu's Excelsior did at least return in a few novels and audio productions that were read 'in character' more like dramatizations. That is a very nice image of the Enterprise B. I prefer the NCC-1701-A myself, but that's still a cool ship.

[Captain Roop]

Jul 22, 2013 3:38:37 GMT Ken Thomson, Admin said:

John Harriman did return in two stories. One is the novel, "The Captain's Daughter" and another is Star Trek: "Of Gods and Men" which is a fan film. Sulu's Excelsior did at least return in a few novels and audio productions that were read 'in character' more like dramatizations. That is a very nice image of the Enterprise B. I prefer the NCC-1701-A myself, but that's still a cool ship.

As I do not read a whole lot, I was not familiar with the Novel the Captain's Daughter. Of course I did know that he was in fact in "Of Gods and Men. I had heard of a few Excelsior Novels, but never read any. 
Enterprise-A is very cool, but in my humble opinion Enterprise-B is more sleeker for that era of time.

[Ken Thomson, Admin]

Well, we could debate it for a long time, but the problem with Enterprise B in my opinion is that the two impulse exhaust vents are right in front of the nacelles. By the principle of action/reaction, even if the exhaust didn't fry the nacelles off over time, it would push against itself and therefore at best create drag. At worst, it would likely melt them. Bad idea that 'looked cool.'

Excelsior class looks really good from a few angles, but from some, it looks like a very awkward ship. The movie Enterprise A still has the TOS lines but is more streamlined. Almost every angle of the ship gives you a V shape that looks cool. And the Enterprise A had Kirk at the helm, which is the best captain of the fleet, in my opinion.

[Ken Thomson, Admin]

Blueprints:



Enterprise NCC-1701-B
www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/jac-enterprise-b-heavy-cruiser.php




Excelsior NCC-2000
www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/jac-excelsior-class-heavy-cruiser.php

[Captain Roop]

Loved the Jackill's Technical Readouts, one like it will be done for Grandeur down the road. I understand your concerns about the way the impulse exhaust vents were laid out. Anyway I guess I will never have a club in this era of time, so no use worrying about it, had I had one I just would have over looked that problem anyway.

[Ken Thomson, Admin]

I'm just giving you a hard time, man. It's okay to like the Enterprise B.

[LaneDEA]

Actually Enterprise B was my least favorite. I knew it would be Excelsior class, but instead of doing all the secondary hull stuff I wish they'd just changed the saucer some and shortened the nacelles, and maybe moved them away a bit from the secondary hull. I just didn't feel like it was the logical step between A and C.

[Captain Roop]

I could maybe see the changes you mentioned and it may very well have been cool looking. But I am just glad they changed what they did in the Star-drive section it gave the Excelsior Class that somewhat needed flair to it.